Italy: bye!. Complementing
After failing miserably in finding work in Italy as in other European countries, my wife and I have not had any other option but to return to Venezuela . What surprises me most is the difficulty to be employed, I wonder how will the hundreds of legal immigrants brought by the Left parties on European countries to enable them to remain in power, as they say racist blogs. Seriously while they say that Europe has virtually opened the doors to immigrants, that each day more, that have left government indiscriminately and continue to foster the entry of the third world, the reality that I have found is totally diverse, such as quotas closed (and completed!) for the entry of foreigners in Italy, immediate rejection for those seeking work in Britain and do not have a European passport, forget HP's interesting by recruiting English and so on . It is interesting that the tide of European immigrants brought to land, two venezolanitos preparations are trying to do the paperwork as not accepted legal. It must be that we have bad luck or that the lords of the racist blogs exaggerate a little note to be heard.
I do not know what the truth is: if we were unlucky, not looking enough or the immigration policies of European countries are not as friendly as his detractors say. The most interesting part is that most of my acquaintances have migrated to Europe European passport!, Or married to someone who has (!), Ie the migration is not kick their ass. For now, we return to Venezuela, we see that we stand and then see if we go abroad, or stay more permanently.
The first detail that I will face when returning to the land is no longer talk in this small gallery in Italy. I think I'll do a couple of posts more, but I do not affect the situation in Italy beyond the anecdotal, few things will write about the land of pasta. Immigration
, personal , Europe
Tuesday, June 17, 2008
Sunday, May 18, 2008
What Is Wrong With Fakku
: Study ... (II)
In the previous post talked about how to study these lands do not pay in Italian. Shortly after publication, a friend wanted to discuss with me on the messenger. The conversation was quite interesting, at least from my point of view, and in my opinion complements very well what I posted above. My friend gave me permission to use the conversation and this is, of course keep your name anonymous.
Anyway, the conversation seemed interesting and I have transcribed as such.
1 My friend is of Italian descent. His father is Puglia, the heel of the boot.
2 J is an Italian friend who left Venezuela in 2000 because I could not work and returned to Italy (in fact, born in Italy). Live in the Veneto and after spending some work, now is doing well.
Italy, Economy, Education
In the previous post talked about how to study these lands do not pay in Italian. Shortly after publication, a friend wanted to discuss with me on the messenger. The conversation was quite interesting, at least from my point of view, and in my opinion complements very well what I posted above. My friend gave me permission to use the conversation and this is, of course keep your name anonymous.
" A: I read your blog ...
A 1 : the best is that many people telling me to go to Italy
A : lol
K-2: good pean you have less than I
K-2: at least you're Italian
A : sip, but I have title ... a nice piece of paper ...
A : with which they are cleaned
nargan K-2: yes
K-2: I would play
validate K-2, or enter into any company where this does not matter much
A : J 2 step and a lot of work ... : S
K-2 oh yeah
A: But look something perhaps not interpreting the blog
A : the title if it gives you the tools to understand things more quickly
K-2 : maybe what I wrote bad
A , but the training that gives the university, especially at ing, lic
K-2: is what I meant, I remember that I put some quotes directly from other people
A : is bestial
A : More than that "power" that you mentioned, I believe, from experience I have lived, that vision is more powerful
A: I guess a PHD will expand even further, but I can not talk about it ... because I'm just Mr.
K-2: on the contrary, the doctorate is helping you to focus on even narrower field
A: I've worked with TSU workers and I can tell ... even when you get to management level, you realize that the tools are not enough college
A: You need more, and that more, I fear, is called graduate
A: Do not understand me, not the vision a problem or area Specific ... is the vision of work and your position in it and how you decide ...
K-2: I understand
K-2, but not everyone gets to see that
A : yeap, and if as you say the people who run companies have that head Cave ... rest only whish it to them ... good luck
K-2: believe me that is
K-2: part of the Italian crisis has its origin in this
A: Look, it's simple, if you do not have advanced degrees, and raised as say ... not see the need for an engineer or a licensed
A : rather, I do know when I need a TSU, an engineer ... and even ratings and level of experience you must have to play a role
A : in some cases, I can hire someone who knows more than I do in a specific area ... my department and improving ... and my knowledge too:)
A : in short, "
Anyway, the conversation seemed interesting and I have transcribed as such.
1 My friend is of Italian descent. His father is Puglia, the heel of the boot.
2 J is an Italian friend who left Venezuela in 2000 because I could not work and returned to Italy (in fact, born in Italy). Live in the Veneto and after spending some work, now is doing well.
Italy, Economy, Education
Friday, May 16, 2008
How To Build Fireplace
In Italy, the study does not pay ... Back
In my previous post talked briefly about the divorce between the university and the Italian industry. That divorce is not only limited to those who made life in the universities for a long time doing graduate studies or work as researchers, but also includes those who have bothered to burn the eyelashes. In other words, going straight to the point, a university degree in Italy does not pay. It's that simple. This information, known as a popular culture level was confirmed by daily La Repubblica last 09/05 under the title " graduates gain only 120 euros more per month " (my translation). In this paper we report the results of a study carried out by Unioncamere 1 it is shown that college graduates earn only 120 euros more than those without college degrees. Of course, talk of salary before taxes, the difference should be even lower when we consider all the aliquots that are deducted workers. The juice of the article is summarized in the following quote from the president of the organization:
In other words, consider a university in Italy can mean you're wasting your time miserably. This indicates why the fall of called "made in Italy" : a force not seen or recognized professional productive merit. In general, what counts are the contacts (any similarity with other countries is purely coincidental) and no skills.
worst thing is that this disease was already recognized by the Prodi government in its program of government in 2006. And that was even talk of implementing corrective measures. It is not just a matter of governmental action, is also something to change the mentality of the people, understand that a college graduate can make more than a person who has just graduated from high school. The sad thing is that the Italian population shares much of this bias, as evidenced by the following quotes, taken from the free newspaper City of 12/05, on the argument:
You see, many people view the university titles simple pieces of paper, and the most important thing is experience. It is true that the latter is important, as an experienced worker can tell you precisely where you find a problem but depending on the level of education of the worker, he may decide the best solution to this problem. Everything is at the level of competition. And as I said, everyone expects that the doctor treating him have very good academic qualifications, and that goes for all professions.
But worth remembering this story of the father of a friend about the Veneto industries: many of the textiles industries were founded by people who worked for a long time as workers in other companies, they knew which machines to buy and what to do, and how make a quality product. While Italy was the market leader, was enough to copy what others did to stay. When he entered the competition from emerging economies (see China), many not having the ability to innovate or produce at low costs had to close or move to other countries. The companies that survived were those who had the vision to change and evolve, and they realized that as they increased the complexity of the market, it was necessary to hire more and more trained staff.
1 Unioncamere is the body that groups all the Italian chambers of commerce.
Italy, Economy , Education
In my previous post talked briefly about the divorce between the university and the Italian industry. That divorce is not only limited to those who made life in the universities for a long time doing graduate studies or work as researchers, but also includes those who have bothered to burn the eyelashes. In other words, going straight to the point, a university degree in Italy does not pay. It's that simple. This information, known as a popular culture level was confirmed by daily La Repubblica last 09/05 under the title " graduates gain only 120 euros more per month " (my translation). In this paper we report the results of a study carried out by Unioncamere 1 it is shown that college graduates earn only 120 euros more than those without college degrees. Of course, talk of salary before taxes, the difference should be even lower when we consider all the aliquots that are deducted workers. The juice of the article is summarized in the following quote from the president of the organization:
"Leveling down ,...,' is the most obvious symptom of the lack of attention to the merit that characterizes the Italian labor market and signals a country inattentive to the value of study and skills, who risk mortify the best resources which may have to restart. "
In other words, consider a university in Italy can mean you're wasting your time miserably. This indicates why the fall of called "made in Italy" : a force not seen or recognized professional productive merit. In general, what counts are the contacts (any similarity with other countries is purely coincidental) and no skills.
worst thing is that this disease was already recognized by the Prodi government in its program of government in 2006. And that was even talk of implementing corrective measures. It is not just a matter of governmental action, is also something to change the mentality of the people, understand that a college graduate can make more than a person who has just graduated from high school. The sad thing is that the Italian population shares much of this bias, as evidenced by the following quotes, taken from the free newspaper City of 12/05, on the argument:
- "In Italy there is no meritocracy, university degrees are considered the only pieces of paper. Move only the living and the recommended ". Aly84 (Ergo, why so many problems in Italy).
- " I think there is [something] so outrageous. University degrees are currently only single sheets of paper. The work is another thing. "Alex (I wonder if this guy would like their children to try a doctor without that piece of paper).
- " depends on the type now most of the work on the computer are repetitive and anyone can make. "Lucy66 (that explains why I can not buy a single book when the store system down).
- " I am a graduate university, but I know colleagues che can not do 'O' with a glass. It is the experience that makes a difference. "Veleno (true, but to have experience doing certain tasks, is not as logical to have a theoretical background that allows you to quickly understand?).
- " The degree is important personal pride and culture. Be called Doctor: wow!. But in the end the real title should be obtained in life. "Marianna Mod (excellent, banality above all how cute is the" Dr "before my name. Personally enough for me to tell me sir. For Furthermore, the title you get in life is to late).
- "It's not a question of merit or qualifications, but of knowledge. Sometimes a diploma [high school] is the best cost-benefit commitment." Liberal76 (true, not everyone was born to be a doctor, but for certain work not only experience counts.)
- "Unfortunately the educational degree is a piece of paper made with fatigue. What really counts is the experience that is done at the time." Sergio (but without that piece of paper can not gain experience) "
You see, many people view the university titles simple pieces of paper, and the most important thing is experience. It is true that the latter is important, as an experienced worker can tell you precisely where you find a problem but depending on the level of education of the worker, he may decide the best solution to this problem. Everything is at the level of competition. And as I said, everyone expects that the doctor treating him have very good academic qualifications, and that goes for all professions.
But worth remembering this story of the father of a friend about the Veneto industries: many of the textiles industries were founded by people who worked for a long time as workers in other companies, they knew which machines to buy and what to do, and how make a quality product. While Italy was the market leader, was enough to copy what others did to stay. When he entered the competition from emerging economies (see China), many not having the ability to innovate or produce at low costs had to close or move to other countries. The companies that survived were those who had the vision to change and evolve, and they realized that as they increased the complexity of the market, it was necessary to hire more and more trained staff.
1 Unioncamere is the body that groups all the Italian chambers of commerce.
Italy, Economy , Education
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